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steve.moore@polk.co.uk
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 13:17:19
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Its been a cold winter and I am likely to be camping in the next few weeks. So, I was thinking of getting a warmer bag.
In your opinion would the Pipedream 400 be comfortable enough at -3?
http://media.alpkit.com/support/manuals/pipedream.pdf
I assume it would also be fine in any ALPS HUT, they don't get that cold do they?
Steve
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Wavey Davey
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 15:08:41
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Hi Steve, link doesn't work for me :(
Someone once said that the perfect bag should be warm enough to stop you freezing but not so warm as you want to stay in it and not get out. That is not what I expect from comfortable! |
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Redshift
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Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 15:30:42
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Originally posted by Wavey Davey
Hi Steve, link doesn't work for me :(
Remove the final dot and the link will work.
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Leigh
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Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 16:12:13
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Its notes say its the 'minimum' temperature at which one should have a comfy nights sleep.
some bags have an 'upper' and a 'lower' comfort level.
I've always found the comfort ratings not to be that great for the minimums.. but then again I'm female and we sleep about 5C colder than men. (supposedly). The 600 I note they say is lightweight winter bag for late autumn, early spring.
Mountain Equipment used to do a 30 day comfort pledge, that if you buy a bag and you are too cold, they'll exchange it for you for a warmer one within 30 days. I did just that after a cold wild camping weekend !
Alpkit looks good value kit though. Always fancied trying one of their bags. Their sleeping mats are good - we have two.
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PhilW
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 21:15:17
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Steve,
If you want a lightweight bag you could try
http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/sleepingbags.php?cat=26
You can customise the bags and if you get a higher down fill power like 900 then you get the best warmth per weight ratios.
The guy founded Mountain Equipment over 30 years ago but left to setup phd a few years back to get back to what he loved.
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pauld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2010 : 22:19:27
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You can customise the bags and if you get a higher down fill power like 900 then you get the best warmth per weight ratios.
but you have to sell you house to buy one 
I've had a bad experience with 2 Mountain hardware bags, a +5 comfort and a -5 comfort, as Leigh says the minimum comfort is optimistic difficult to calibrate, I'm a bit skinny, get cold feet easily, and will be looking for a -15 bag for next winter (new years eve in the lakes)
Also a full size 4 season mat makes a big difference, I've tried a few different combinations this winter, the best matress was Sarahs 4 season Womens specific thermorest 
My attempts at using multiple sleeping bags to 'up' the rating just results in horrible tangled mess, so I'm going to look for a synthetic *5* season bag that will do for car camping.
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tess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 18:15:15
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I have a alpkit pipedream 600. I personally would not go any lower than a 600. It is heavier but worth it for the warmth. I wildcamp a lot and have needed the 600 and a winter mat for colder nights.
It is a lovely bag and packs down well.
regards
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colin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 08:49:42
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i would look at somthing that has dubble the lower comfort that you want to go to.
also i have found persionley that a very good winter mat is a must as otherwise the down bag is usless |
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